Manastash Ridge trail 4W330

[Ceg_]

I am wanting to know how bad this trail is:

Manastash Ridge trail 4W330


Let me know if you have ran it and in what type rig you did it with. Post up any pictures you may have on that trail.

Thanks, Clay

[dirk]

According to the MAP it is called Tipover Trail...isn't this the trail that is run on the Rocky Saddle run?

ROCKY SADDLE (Rated 10; width restriction-75 inches.) This trail is for short wheel base vehicles with lockers front and rear, full roll cage, aggressive tires, CB and winch. For experienced drivers only! There is a high risk of vehicle and equipment damage. The trail host leader will determine final eligibility. Plan for a long day!

I have been on it with a CJ7...lots of tight corners in the timber.

Manastash Ridge Trail is 4W306.

[Ceg_]

Originally Posted by dirk

According to the MAP it is called Tipover Trail...

Yes the Forest Service has been calling it Tip Over for years. That is one reason I asked about this trail. What are the chances of flopping. I have ran Shoestring and String but never 4W330. I have seen both ends of 4W330. I want to know what is in the middle. Waycrazy is wanting to run it this summer. I am not a fan of off camber in areas without trees to stop me from rolling down the hill. How bad it this trail as far as flopping?

[Merrick Graves]

Before the trail was rerouted it had a section in the center that been closed. You could not run the trail thru. The section that was closed had a reputation for some serious accidents. There had been deaths. It was a cresting hill that could be run downhill only. You had to be in a low gear under acceleration driving faster than you would slide. You could not see where or what was happening next because of the crest. As I remember about halfway down there was a sharp right followed by another sharp left. It was at these turns that trouble was encountered or the person had gotten on the brakes and was out of control. You just could not stop. The FS closed the trail by digging a giant tank trap and installing chain link fence. You can still get to that section from the top but are stopped a good distane before the trenchs. From the bottom you can not find the old trail. It was put to bed and has been reforested. It may of been named because of that section.

[zukkev]

Rocky Saddle Trail is a blast!!!! I love running it, some spectacular views! There isn't much off-camber on the trail-only a couple areas that I can think of; one is in the rock garden-not too bad at all. the other is before 'Sasha's infamous Hill!!!' (that loose rocky hillclimb she can't seem to make---Jim knows!)

[Ceg_]

Originally Posted by zukkev

Rocky Saddle Trail is a blast!!!! I love running it, some spectacular views! There isn't much off-camber on the trail-only a couple areas that I can think of; one is in the rock garden-not too bad at all. the other is before 'Sasha's infamous Hill!!!' (that loose rocky hillclimb she can't seem to make---Jim knows!)

How long is this loose climb?

[Ceg_]

Originally Posted by Merrick Graves

Before the trail was rerouted it had a section in the center that been closed. You could not run the trail thru. The section that was closed had a reputation for some serious accidents. There had been deaths. It was a cresting hill that could be run downhill only. You had to be in a low gear under acceleration driving faster than you would slide. You could not see where or what was happening next because of the crest. As I remember about halfway down there was a sharp right followed by another sharp left. It was at these turns that trouble was encountered or the person had gotten on the brakes and was out of control. You just could not stop. The FS closed the trail by digging a giant tank trap and installing chain link fence. You can still get to that section from the top but are stopped a good distane before the trenchs. From the bottom you can not find the old trail. It was put to bed and has been reforested. It may of been named because of that section.

Thanks for the history. I had not heard that before.

So all the easy death spots are gone? How does the trail compare to the others in the area as in difficulty? The rock gardens like the ones on Shoestring and Kanner or are they big where you need more ground clearance?

[Merrick Graves]

Fun trail also known as Rocky Saddle even though the trail skirts below the saddle. Couple of fun short hill climbs thru rock slides. Then the trail gets tight and twisty. The trail thru the twisty section was rerouted a couple years ago by the Wandering Willys Jeep Club. For the most part the reroute builders took their flatfenders. We set it up so there were three and 4 point turn for the flatties. Thru the years others have made those ubbertight turns straighted. But it is still a good time. If you go uphill at the intersection instead of heading for the Shoestring and the Rock Garden you will pass a outlook rock. This is a great place to look down on the Rock Garden. Hold on to the kids though. Great place for lunch.

You can swing out thru the Shoestring or take the Rock Garden. Then choices become Upper Kaner or Quartz Mtn.

This is a popular run for the Jamboree. The run fill everyday it is offered.