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Old 07-16-2009, 08:47 PM
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WTA and Cougar Mountain Say, "Thanks, REI!"
Posted by Rebecca Lavigne at Jul 09, 2009 10:35 AM | Permalink
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In late June I had the opportunity to join a group of volunteers for a day of trail work on Cougar Mountain. Volunteers came from Kennewick, Tukwila, and Seattle ó one even came all the way from the East Coast. We spent a productive day working in dappled sunlight along the Steam Hoist Trail, retreading and improving drainage. Trail runners, parents with kids and a retired couple out for a stroll paused to say thanks as they passed by.

Youíll find a WTA crews like this working nearly every day of the year on close-to-home trails as well as those far in the backcountry. What set this group apart was that they were all top-achieving REI employees who had been recognized by their peers with REIís Anderson Award.

That day we got some good work accomplished. Even better, REI presented WTA with a $20,000 grant to help us keep up the good work all summer long. The cash and in-kind grant will help WTA lead more than 30,000 hours of volunteer work statewide between now and National Public Lands Day on September 26.

So, a hearty thank you to the REI Anderson Award winners who joined us on Cougar Mountain and to everyone at REI! Their generous, continued commitment to the hiking community is a big reason why, year after year, WTA is able to help keep your favorite trails open.

Rebecca Lavigne is WTA's Development Director



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$20,000.00...Twenty Thousand Dollars...Twenty large...20K...irtDOG:
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:59 PM
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$20,000.00...Twenty Thousand Dollars...Twenty large...20K...irtDOG:
So when do we hit up the major players in the 4x4 industry for this kind of money?
  • WARN
  • Trail Ready
  • ARB
  • 4WheelParts
  • Randy's Ring & Pinion
  • Jeep
  • Rubicon Express
  • Quadratec
  • Detroit Locker
  • Superior Axle
  • Les Schwab
  • Interco Tires
  • BFGoodrich Tires
  • Goodyear Tires
  • Fabtech
  • Skyjacker
  • Maxxis Tires
I just don't see why they couldn't do the same for us?
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:01 PM
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Congrats to REI for supporting something that will keep them in business for years to come...shame on the 4x4 industry for not doing the same
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:40 PM
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Congrats to REI for supporting something that will keep them in business for years to come...shame on the 4x4 industry for not doing the same
I would say the same thing except that the money they give is used not only to support hikers but to exclude ALL other users from the forest. REI is selling its soul to the devil in the name of profit and they know it. I used to shop at REI and even had one of their special little member cards. No longer will they recieve a single dime of my money until they stop supporting anti everyone but us groups. If they were truly interested in doing good things for the enviroment as they claim then they coulf find better ways to do it.
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I would say the same thing except that the money they give is used not only to support hikers but to exclude ALL other users from the forest. REI is selling its soul to the devil in the name of profit and they know it. I used to shop at REI and even had one of their special little member cards. No longer will they recieve a single dime of my money until they stop supporting anti everyone but us groups. If they were truly interested in doing good things for the enviroment as they claim then they coulf find better ways to do it.
I know you think that REI is the debbil, but my point was that they are supporting what they believe in...it is not all about profit...they are actually a great company. Giving back to the community, great place to work, responsible manufacturing processes, green building practices, etc.

It would be really great if some of the companies in the offroad industry were willing to offer similar support...I guess they are too worried about making money. Imagine what could be accomplished with that level of support.

It just sucks for us, that REI is in a position to donate...the employees actually decide where the money goes. The process works like this:

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REI employees nominate organizations, projects, and programs in which they are personally involved to receive funding or gear donations. During 2008, REI granted $3.7 million to more than 395 of our community partners. For more information, click here.
Read up on how REI Gives. I have actually thought about nominating PNW4WDA for a grant, but we all know that this org does not fit the profile they are looking for
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I would say the same thing except that the money they give is used not only to support hikers but to exclude ALL other users from the forest. REI is selling its soul to the devil in the name of profit and they know it. I used to shop at REI and even had one of their special little member cards. No longer will they recieve a single dime of my money until they stop supporting anti everyone but us groups. If they were truly interested in doing good things for the enviroment as they claim then they coulf find better ways to do it.
And honestly...if we had an offroad company throwing money at us...do you really think any of it would be spent on supporting hikers in the woods? Heck no...it would all be dumped back into efforts to support motorized recreation...which would then ultimately support sales for the company donating the money.

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Your missing my point. There is nothing wrong with supporting your "customers" the point is the money is directly or indirectly used to keep everyone on else out of the woods. All you have to do is read a little of WTAs and Jonathan Guzzos retoric to understand that they wont be happy until all motorized use is eraticated from OUR forests. As far as asking them for a grant good luck. I went down that road before asking for help building bridges to protect streams (after all they claim to want to protect the enviroment) I was told flat out no that they only support "muscle" powered sports. To bad since so many of us camp hunt and hike as well not to mention all the folks I know with mountain bikes. REI is loosing a huge chunk of the market simply due to the fact that they cant see beyound WTA and what its doing with the money it gets from them. As a employee of REI your in a prime position to help them see whats really going on and show them that ALL the forests users can be responsible users and that we ALL should have access to OUR forests. I can only hope your working in that direction with them
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And honestly...if we had an offroad company throwing money at us...do you really think any of it would be spent on supporting hikers in the woods? Heck no...it would all be dumped back into efforts to support motorized recreation...which would then ultimately support sales for the company donating the money.

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We have a few vendors that support us. Maybe not to the point that WTA gets but some none the less. The big differance is that we dont use what they give us to lock hikers out of the woods or close their trails or bankrupt their funding now do we
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It is important to remember that we can get a dollar from a hundred people easier than we can get a hundred dollars from one. We must also remember that a dollar saved is a dollar earned. Because advertising dollars are short these days, companies are often more willing to provide in-kind services in exchange for free advertising.

Let me give you a few examples of what our club does to get in-kind services in exchange for advertising:

R&P Parts pays for our website each year in exchange for a link to their website and an ad in our newsletter. Our website has been key to the growth of our club and our events. Money saved.

Truck Toys has paid for the printing of our newsletter in exchange for a large monthly ad in the newsletter. They have also included our name and events in their commercials. They have provided the PA system and cones with their logo for our Groundhog Competition. This provides us with free services and supplies while providing them with advertising. Money saved.

Warn Industries have provided us with key advice. We don’t ask them for product, but turn to them for feedback and ideas. In exchange, we hand out their stickers and hats.

Of course we also have 4x4 companies who provide us with product for prizes, such as 4 Wheel Drive Hardware and Tom Woods Drive Shafts in exchange for links on our website and advertisements on our posters.

High Desert 4x4 often provides printing expenses for our club.

All of these 4x4 companies provide us with exposure and saved expenses, allowing us to grow our club, grow our community exposure and use our club money for trail expenses.

But we must think beyond the 4x4 box in order to save money. The more money we can save on expenses, the more money we will have to spend on trails. Here are a few examples:

Alpine Glass and Bend Engraving provide the trophies for Groundhog each year in exchange for advertising. JP & Sons Construction often provides signs for our events and provides kiosk construction at trailheads. ArmorDillo Powder Coating provided gift certificates for prizes. Our local TV and radio stations provide PSA announcements for our community events. Hardy’s Hot Wings and Pilot Butte Drive Inn host show ‘n’ shines each year in their parking lots. They put up our name in their restaurants giving us free exposure.

A few years ago, our Trails Development Committee prepared a 100-page report on the lack of trails in our area. This report was sent to the local forest service and the Governor of Oregon and about 250 people in between. A local printing company, Lazerquik, provided the printing at cost.

Rainbow Threads is a local embroidery company who gives us a good deal on embroidered hats and coats. We include an ad for them on our newsletter. Bend Communications is a CB repair shop that gives club members a good deal. We also include an ad for them in the newsletter.

United Rentals often provides us with equipment at significantly reduced rates. We include their logo on our posters.

None of these companies are directly affiliated with the sport of 4-wheeling, but each provide us with important in-kind services so that we can use our money elsewhere.

The best way to grow our money for trails is to grow our club and grow our community influence. Deschutes County 4-Wheelers host a huge annual forest clean up each spring that has become well know in Central Oregon. When we approach a business for services or donations, we often hear, “Oh, you are the ones who clean up the forest every year.” They know us and therefore trust us.

We also participate in as many Forest Service community events as we can such as the annual Sportsman Show and the Education Fair. We get free booth space to advertise our club and sport and get free access to members of the community who we ordinarily would not see.

Our club has grown tenfold in the last couple of years. More members mean more money. We have become a know entity in Central Oregon and have much more influence with the Forest Service and BLM. This influence with the governing agencies and community has allowed us to develop more trails than we could have ever imagined.

So we must think outside the 4x4 box and find ways to save money, promote our clubs, and bring more awareness to our sport. This will allow us to use the money that we do have to put towards trails.

If anyone has any more ideas on how we can stretch our trail dollars by getting services instead of direct money donations, please post up. We can always use more ideas.
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