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Old 09-17-2014, 12:08 PM
Art Waugh Art Waugh is offline
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A field trip is scheduled for Saturday, Sept. 27, 2014 for the objectors to go up and look at the proposed new staging areas, and the trails that may be put back into the project. Already confirmed my attendance.

Some of the comments at the objection hearing were that this kind of thing needed to be done on the weekends, as most people have to work and that is the only time they have to get up there and interact with the agency people. I give a big thank you to the Forest Supervisor and the staff for making that happen.
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Old 10-21-2014, 12:45 PM
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I went to the field trip along with several members of Deschutes. The existing proposed staging area just off of Highway 26 is paved with an existing vault toilet already in place. Granted the fire this summer burned up to the edge of the parking area. As the trail system will be built from the outer area back to the staging areas, there will be time for the area to rehab somewhat, naturally, to help mitigate erosion factors. Any hazard trees can be taken care of in the trail build process.

The new proposed staging area will require many trees to be removed and a great deal of ground disturbance as well as restroom facilities. It is also on a slight curve on the highway and may require ODOT clearance and maybe turn lanes considering the coach/camper/trailer traffic. The stream is right next to the highway, with a one lane narrow crossing. This will bring ODF&W into the mix as well if turn lanes are needed.

The main reason for this new proposed staging area, and elimination of the other one, is a trail passes behind several private properties, and the owners are citing trespass issues and possible noise issues. I suggested that if the trail is on a closed road or is new construction, it could be moved further back away from the private property, and if on an existing open road, a buck and pole fence could be constructed to eliminate the trespass issue, using ATV funds and volunteer labor from user groups and landowners, giving each a chance to work with the other. If on an open road the traffic and noise should actually decrease as it will be a 50 inch wide route.

These comments were submitted to the Forest Supervisor, ID Team, Or Exec Dir, and the Region 6 Dir. Got a response from the ID Team that they appreciate the comments and work on the project that I'm doing and they will be made part of the project as it moves forward.
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Old 08-25-2015, 06:48 AM
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Just prior to the trip related above, the Forest Supervisor pulled the decision due to the fires and what would need to be done in the aftermath, with a Supplemental EIS (SEIS) to be done in 2015.

Forward to August 24, 2015...... I made a trip over to Prineville to meet with the acting District Ranger-Paulina District, the ID Team Lead and the Environmental person on the team. The latter two were in the prior meetings on adding back in trails.

After looking over maps (the ones from the prior meeting in July of last year could not be found, but the notes from that meeting were located) we took a trip out to the routes in question that were still in the mix from our prior discussions. Of the three routes identified, we looked at two of them and partially walked the north end of one of them. The third route could not be determined from the notes and has been dropped from consideration unless we can figure out where it is.

It looks like we can get both routes added back into the trail system, and the determination of if armoring one stream crossing will work or if it will have to be bridged. The two trails will be mostly on old road bed with three fairly short segments of new construction. The terrain is fairly gentle so they will be easy routes, with the possibility of some tight twists through trees in the new construction on at least one new segment.

While not difficult by any means, at least it is more than we had before, and the team, Ranger District, and the Forest are interested in working with us to make the trail system better in the end. I really applaude them for that effort.

In discussion with the Team Lead on the way out, the original staging area on the north end will remain, and will be the last thing taken care of, due to fire rehab, snags and hazard trees. The land owner proposed staging area will not be built, but will be an unimproved access point with some dispersed camping available, and maybe an ATV loading/unloading ramp.

More as the SEIS is released later this summer/early this fall. Once approved the entire system will be in a 3-5 year project plan to complete. I don't know where we will be in the time frame, but hpefully early on as we are on the far side of the project area, and not much will need to be done on what we looked at yesterday.
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Old 08-25-2015, 07:15 AM
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Great job art. Thanks for sticking with it
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Old 08-25-2015, 07:51 AM
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Thanks Jim, but that really belongs with those that commented on the draft and final EIS's. Not only do I believe in the need for the system, as the OHV representative on the RAC, we work with that Forest, along with four others. I would not be doing my best to represent the users if not staying with it till the end, and on through implementation.

The comments recieved from us and the other users have gotten us this far, and when the SEIS comes out, will probably need more, depending on what is in it..........so the thanks rightly go to them.
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