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raspberry 11-12-2010 12:07 PM

Region 4 minutes - November 9, 2010
NOVEMBER 9, 2010

Director Earl Nettnin (Desert Rats) called the meeting to order at 7:38 PM. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited and a moment of silence for the sick and departed was observed. Guests present were Rance Block (Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation) and George Sheldon (Tapash).

MINUTES: Gloria Joralemon (Shindig Wheelers) made motion seconded by Clay Graham (Yakima Kittitas Forest Watch) to accept the October minutes as printed, motion passed.

TREASURER’S REPORT was given by Sande Nettnin (Desert Rats). No outstanding bills at this time.

COMP REPORT: There are a couple of COMP By-Law changes and proposal for a new COMP By-Law printed in the November Tri-Power along with the ballot. Only PNW members with a current COMP number are eligible to vote. Ballots must be postmarked on or before January 31, 2011.

MEMBERSHIP REPORT: Nothing to report.

CLUB POWER/WE DID IT: Gary Harting (Desert Rats) gave his report. Gary said he had received reports from the Liberty/Chili Dog work party and Pick Up A Mountain. If you need forms contact Gary, at 509-302-5587 or e-mail Remember be sure and turn in paper work for your activities.

JUNIOR JEEPERS: Nothing to report at this time. Gloria Joralemon (Shindig Wheelers) is working on gathering information on having patches made for the kids.

WEB SITE: Nothing to report.

PR: Nothing to report at this time. Be sure and contact Kelda Hagemeier (Shindig Wheelers) if you want something sent out to our contact list.

Juniper Dunes: Doug Conner (Roamin’ Chariots) reported that Franklin County and BLM are working together to acquire the first 2 miles of Peterson Road to provide legal access to Juniper Dunes. Doug said that he and Earl Nettnin Region 4 Director (Desert Rats) and another motorized user recently attended a Franklin County Commissioners meeting where acquiring the road was discussed. They received a copy of the scope of work to be done. After the meeting they talked to the commissioners who are all on board. They also were interviewed by the Tri-City Herald. There is $700,000 available from the BLM due to a bill that Congressman Doc Hastings introduced. Franklin County has submitted a preliminary cost to the BLM. There have been a couple of favorable articles in the Tri-City Herald about Juniper Dunes.
Ahtanum: Ron Rutherford (Jeepin’ Nomads) said he had nothing to report at this time. Ron said there would be a Wenas meeting sometime in the first week of December to discuss the summer and issues that have come up. They usually have two meetings, one in the spring and one in the fall. Glass Angel comments were due today. Everyone felt that a week was not enough time to make comments. Ron said he thought some people were confused about the Glass Angel as they are two different areas, Glass Creek is on Chinook Pass in the Nile area and the Angel part is a little bit of the White Pass area over into the Rattlesnake area. These two projects have been bunched together to bring projects together to move forward through the SEPA and other processes to save money . Glass Creek involves some logging, 4-wheel drive construction and concerns and the Angel part of it is a little dot of a lake water area that has had some thinning and needs to do additional thinning and is part of the Healthy Forest Restoration. There are no 4-wheel drive trails in the part they are calling the Angel project. The 4-wheel drive trails are in what we call the Clover Springs/Mud Springs trail. Mike Palachuk (Shindig Wheelers) and Clay Graham (Yakima Kittitas Forest Watch) shared comments on the Clover Springs/Mud Springs trails. They said they had been up in that area checking things out. They said that several trees had been marked with different colored ribbons. Mike and Clay said it was difficult to know just what the markings were for, and it looked like there had been quite a bit of clean up in some areas. Concerns we have are which trails would be closed, which ones re-routed, how long this process will take and if the trail closures would affect our Trail Jamboree as we use those trails during the month of July at Trail Jamboree and have a contract with the Forest Service for 5 years. Lots of discussion was held on this. The Environmental Assessment is due before January 10; and a decision before March 1.

We need to be aware of the Lame Duck session in congress and watch out for Wilderness Bills.



Director Earl Nettnin (Desert Rats) asked how many of the delegates hunt and fish. Arlene Brooks our Washington State Director would like the information for the recreation committee. It looks like eight hands went up.

Nomination for Region 4 officers; Region Director - none; Region Vice Director - none; Secretary/Treasurer - none; PR Kelda Hagemeier; Lead Land Matters Dale Neuman; Nominations closed and will be open again in January and voted on at that time.

BALD MOUNTAIN PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION was lead by Rance Block and George Sheldon.
Rance has been with Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation for 17 years and George is a former DNR (Department of Natural Resources) with 30 plus years; he now is with Tapash Sustainable Forest Collaborative, consisting of Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, Forest Service, Department of Natural Resources, Yakima Nation, and the Nature Conservancy. Plum Creek is wanting to sell off their land holdings in Central Washington. Plum Creek has attempted to find a commercial forest owner to purchase these lands, but none were interested. The Forest Service will not buy the land because the mineral rights are separate. The checkerboard ownership pattern with alternating forest and development creates insurmountable problems for public land managers. The Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation and the Nature Conservancy are partnering with the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife to acquire the remaining 7,711 acres of a “checkerboard” 10,386 acre site in Kittitas County. The Coalition is looking into buying the land for Fish and Wildlife so that the land will remain public; so we are not faced with private land owners putting up gates such as Mud Lake. Money is available to purchase six of these sections, but must be completed by December. Rance and George are looking for a letter of support from the 4-wheel drive community saying that we are on board with what’s going on. After much discussion a motion was made by Doug Conner (Roamin’ Chariots) seconded by Gloria Joralemon (Shindig Wheelers) that the region generate a letter of support for this project. Motion passed unanimously. The Region 4 Director will write the letter.

Desert Rats: helped with security for the Bethlehem Lutheran Fun Run on Saturday, October 16; we participated in the Veteran’s Day Parade in West Richland followed by lunch at Round Table Pizza. We had nomination of officers for 2011.
Shindig Wheelers: Discussed Pick Up A Mountain, Pam will be putting together a list of committees she would like to have in place by March. Discussion on Glass Angel Restoration Project took place. They had runs October 9th to Rocky Saddle, down to Tri-Pod Flats and back over the top through the Little Rubicon and down the Kaner; October 30th had a Halloween Party at Brittain’s. They have runs planned November 20th meet at Bedrock Lane and leave at 9 AM; December 11th club Christmas Tree Run, meet at Longmire Meadows at 11 AM and December 18th Christmas Party at the Jensen’s .
Yakima Kittitas Forest Watch: On October 16th some of us did a North Colockum run with the Pacific Northwest Backroad Adventure group. November 5th we had our club meeting and voted for officers. All are the same as before. November 6th we did a Glass Creek (Clover Springs Trail) Scoping Run to get facts to send in our concerns to the Naches Forest Ranger about their Glass Angel project. We kicked off our “Forest Watch Volunteer Program” to help keep public lands open across the USA. Check the program out at: We also got a new “Forest Watch Volunteer Program” Mascot called “Muddy”. He is a cartoon bear. We hope Muddy can help educate the future public land users.

DOOR PRIZE: was won by Clay Graham (Yakima Kittitas Forest Watch).




1. JANUARY 11, 2011 – 7:30 PM at Doug Conner’s Shop 3300 Road 96, Pasco, WA

2. Eastern Washington State Meeting Saturday, January 22, 2011 at Union Gap School #2 3201South 4th Union Gap, WA.

3. Winter Convention February 11-13, 2011 in Everett, WA at the Holiday Inn.


Sande Nettnin, Secretary/Treasurer
PNW4WDA Region 4

Merrick Graves 11-12-2010 05:25 PM

I am able to clarify the colors the FS uses to mark trees.

Orange tags/ribbon/paint means tree stays.

Blue tags/ribbon/paint means marked for removal.

raspberry 11-12-2010 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by Merrick Graves (Post 15420)
I am able to clarify the colors the FS uses to mark trees.

Orange tags/ribbon/paint means tree stays.

Blue tags/ribbon/paint means marked for removal.

Thanks, what do the pink ones mean?

Merrick Graves 11-14-2010 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by raspberry (Post 15426)

Thanks, what do the pink ones mean?

The pink one may pertain to a survey. Each section in the FS office has their own colors. You may be able to get a schedule by asking Public Information Officer Doug Jenkins.

My orginal answer about the orange and blue has to do with how often I am asked about those colors. Most sections in the forest has trees marked with them.

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