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“Fight Tooth and Nail” tells the tale for me and a lot of other folks in the land use, off-road, backcountry world.
Kurt Schneider, Land Use Editor for CRAWL Magazine won a caption contest hosted by Krawlzone TV with this cool saying and it is worth sharing and passing around. KrawlzoneTV (http://www.krawlzone.tv/) is fully on our land use team and I hope you’ll pay them a visit and support their work as well. I’m a full time Sharetrails/BRC guy, but I also fully and completely support my State Association. I hope you will do the same with this – encourage folks to join and support everything they can afford to, starting with national and regional group along with State and local clubs/associations. The more the merrier. ![]() Del |
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Pay attention people! This is one of the folks truly leading the charge, and I for one am proud to be a member of BRC, and have access to them as a resource...
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Dave Walters Tri Cities Peak Putters Land Use Coordinator www.peakputters.com It's a Scout thing ![]() |
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Too bad Del is preaching to the choir...it is the users that don't belong to any organized club or group thatneed to be reached, along with "Bubba" that just doesn't give a d*** and tears everything up and the problem there is you will never reach bubba and get him to understand the problems he causes. As for the rest of them, they won't do anything because they are looking at it through rose colored shades and see unlimited public land to run and they won't believe that it is going away faster than anyone imagines.........
Just look at Quack Attack and when the club is up doing work on it, and bubba and other users are yelling at the club to get out of the way so they can tear it up, and no offer to help.........
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Not knowing any details on this situation...I would ask what the Deschutes County 4 Wheelers are doing to reach out to those users? How are they making them feel welcomed? In what ways have they listened to those users and tried to incorporate those ideas/desires into the long term plan? If it's a big tire vs small tire debate...everyone should have a seat at the table. If you don't include everyone, they just might drive past you on the trail.
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Bryan Peterson | WOHVA | PNWJeep | Eldorado Dust Devils |
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I won't get too deep, (that is for those that have encountered the problem) but from what I have understood, the club tried talking to them (this has happened more than once) and invited them to join, help, whatever, and got exactly nowhere, and then they proceeded to tear up what was just fixed. As I understand right now the future of that trail is still up in the air because of "bubba" damage to the resource.
Sometimes the only fix for bubba is a healthy application of an oak 2x4....................or a $10,000 fine, a year in the clink, and forfiture of the vehicles involved.
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1981 Cherokee W/T, 360, T-18, Warn 8274 in custom bumper/deer strainer (tested and approved) 1988 Cherokee 4 door, 3" Rancho lift, custom sliders/steps, custom roof rack, custom camo paint, custom camo headliner, custom bumpers and Warn 9500 HS, 31-10.50's Only 31's, but can drag self with either rig ![]() BLM John Day/Snake RAC-OHV/Recreation Representative Wolfpack 4x4's - Region 5 - "Cave Lupum" Pres.- Outcast Land Use Review Team |
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Deschutes County 4 Wheeler's welcomes all off highway vehicle recreationalists to the powwow on access on public lands. Perhaps you can discern for yourself our motives.
https://www.facebook.com/dc4ws/ Please concern yourselves productively: access your local agencies and direct their motives as you comment to them in writing asking for continued access on our public lands. Thank you and God Speed in your journey
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Mona Drake ![]() Deschutes County 4 Wheeler (Trails Development Committee) Harney County High Desert Wheeler Region 6 PNW4WDA Secretary BlueRibbon Coalition Board Memeber Last edited by just duckie; 11-21-2015 at 10:28 AM. Reason: no longer am i region 6 secretary or on the SEORAC |
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Bryan Peterson | WOHVA | PNWJeep | Eldorado Dust Devils |
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I was hoping you could help paint the picture for me.
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Bryan Peterson | WOHVA | PNWJeep | Eldorado Dust Devils Last edited by dirk; 11-29-2015 at 08:02 PM. |
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Everyone did have a seat at the table Bryan. but as usual only the workers showed up did all of the legwork then did all of the ground work then watched in horror as a small army of "users" tore the living crap out of their hard work making the trail all but impassable for the "average" user (you know the ones that did all of the work) Monas to nice to say it so I did
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Member #40 Hombres jeep club Region 2 landmatters chairman |
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Please take my comments with a grain of salt...I've never run the trail, but hope to soon. Everything I've read online says that the trail is finally getting worn in and fun. But then I read comments from DC4W that say it's torn to ****. I'm not sure who to believe, but I vote for the version that is more challenging and fun. I know that Graeme Tydeman from G-Fab is involved down there, but not as part of the PNW4WDA....not sure if he is viewed as a partner or the enemy....but I would strongly recommend that he and his crew be listened to and considered a valid partner. He represents my interests in what a fun trail looks like and I know that there are a bunch of users all over WA & OR that feel the same.
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Bryan Peterson | WOHVA | PNWJeep | Eldorado Dust Devils |
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