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Default Region 4 minutes - June 12, 2018

East Wenatchee, WA
June 12, 2018

Director Earl Nettnin (Desert Rats) called the meeting to order at 7:31 PM. The Pledge of Allegiance was recited and a moment of silence for the sick and departed was observed. No guests were present.

MINUTES: Ed Massey (Columbia Basin Sand Commandos) made a motion seconded by Dale Neuman (High Country Cruisers) that we accept the minutes from May 8, 2018 in Selah, WA as printed; motion carried.

TREASURER'S REPORT was given by Treasurer Sande Nettnin, we have no outstanding bills.

COMP REPORT: we received from Kevin and Terri Mohan (Nitty Gritty) information stating that at the Outdoor's Race at Ethel Saturday July 14th is were the Region 4 Relay Teams would be picked using the times from the obstacle course for both the men's and women's teams. Terri also asked the region to approve up to $250 for shirts. Dale Neuman made a motion seconded by Lynn Kirk (Wenatchee Mountain Masters) that we approve up to $250 for shirts for the COMP Relay Team; motion carried. The COMP schedule is posted on line.

MEMBERSHIP: Lynn Kirk said that his club had, had a problem getting their dues paid; apparently they didn't have the right address for the membership chairman and they got them back. They have sent them again.

CLUB POWER/WE DID IT Chairman Gary Harting (Desert Rats) was not present, he is waiting for people to send in reports. Current forms were given to Diane Neuman (High Country Cruisers) and she will get the paper work on the Liberty work party sent in. Diane reported that the hazard tree at Williams Creek campground has been taken down.

JR. JEEPERS: We are still looking for someone to take this on.

PUAM (Pick Up A Mountain) is September 14-16, 2018. A flier and order form for t-****s was handed out. Camping for the weekend is $20. If you would like to help contact Alicia Palachuk (Shindig Wheelers) at 509- 697-4178 or

TRAIL JAMBOREE: is July 4-8, 2018, hosts can come into the park Sunday July 1st at noon. It was reported at the PNW Board Teleconference that we have enough Trail Hosts plus a few extra. However, if you would like to help out with something contact the Chairman Adrian Valliere (The Hombres) 1-503-310-0852.

PR Chairman Jim Hall (Jeeping Nomads) has had shoulder surgery and will be out of commission until the end of July, but he is still able to send out notifications. Earl said we are trying to compose a list for Tri-Power of the agencies we work with to be able to receive a hard copy of the publication. If you have someone in mind that you think would like to receive a copy, get their name and address to Earl. Dale Neuman said we should add Kim Larned (Cle Elum Ranger District). Once again a few of our members are not getting their Tri-Power so you will need to contact PNW Membership Chairman Kristin Smith, new telephone number, 1-503-410-1578.

Travel Management Plan is still a work in progress, nothing seems to be happening and probably won't be as far as we are told; there doesn't seem to be any urgency to get it done.

Accident at Liberty - for updated information go to gofundme-Ramynke. They were new members of the Shindig Wheelers. We wish them well, however, we understand they will have quite an extensive recovery time.

Liberty Work Party - Dale Neuman stated that the work party went pretty well, but we needed lots more help in clearing the trees from the trails. He has talked with Mikki Douglass (Cle Elum Ranger District) about this. We only had a small number of people working to get trails cleared and most of them are getting up in years and were feeling that they couldn't keep this up forever, so if you want to be able to go on the trails you will need to step up and volunteer to help. Dale said without the volunteers the trails will not be open, as the Forest Service does not have the man power to do the job. Discussion followed; Dale reminded everyone that he used to take

a week of his vacation time to do this. Dale thanked everyone who came and helped.

Dale reported on the fixing of the Jeep called Eugene that had been purchased with grant money for the Cle Elum Ranger District. Region 4 stepped up and donated money to help fix it. Also some others donated their time and expertise in getting it fixed. Dale said it's probably about 3 weeks away from being back on the trails.
Olympic 4X4 is fixing it at their cost - no labor to us, Les Schwab fixed a tire for free. Special thanks to all who have worked on making this happen.

Dale and some others spent a day training our new Cle Elum Ranger District ORV person Dawn Fouts on driving on the trails and some chainsaw work; more training is needed when Eugene is back in service.

Dale and Diane Neuman filled out Trail Maintenance forms writing down everything that's wrong with all the trails at Liberty and had a meeting with Kim Larned (Cle Elum Ranger District) to make her aware of what needs to be done. She wanted to know what the priorities were since she is new to this and has not been out on the trails. Dale told her she needs to go out and physically see what needs to be done. Dale said he hopes to hear by the end of June what her plans are. Discussion followed on how to fix some of the trails, we can't proceed until we know what the new ranger is thinking.

No news on having equipment training classes at this time. We have operators who do this for a living that are ready to work if the Forest Service would certify them.

Earl said that we have a new Assistant Forest Supervisor for the Okanogan/Wenatchee National Forest, his name is Eric Walker. That's all we know about him. Dale will contact him and arrange a meeting with him, so he will know that the motorized people are involved.

Dale Neuman reported in August/September a work party will be held to rebuild the bridges on the Shoestring trail that were distroyed from the fires.

NACHES COLLABORATIVE is having a working group meeting July 19th at the Naches Ranger Station from 12:30 4:30 PM. The Steering Committee meets regularly, Ron Rutherford (Jeeping Nomads) represents us.

TAPASH STAKEHOLDERS MEETING was held in Ellensburg May 15th and a field trip on May 16th to see the projects. Ron Rutherford and Mike VanAmburg gave a presentation on recreation in the Little Naches. It was well received and lots of questions were asked.

TRAIL PARTNERS We have signage to put up. Ron Rutherford is in charge of getting this done. So when volunteers and weather come together it will happen.

Fiberglass bridges will not happen as engineers determined the weight of the snow will be to much for them.

The Human Ecology Mapping (HEM) that we announced last month was not going to happen because they didn't have the personnel, well things have changed and it's going to happen now as they have found someone who will do it.

GRANTS: We were notified that a revision would take place, Earl checked with our WA EXE. Arlene Brooks (PNW Individual Members Club) to see if she had any issues with it since she sat on that committee for several years. She didn't have any issues with it.

BLUE MOUNTAIN FOREST REVISION PLAN - another work in progress, nothing is happening.

JUNIPER DUNES - We are told they should break ground this fall on the new access road.

SWAUK PINE nothing is happening.

MILK CREEK RE-ROUTE will take place when volunteers and time come together.

Ahtanum North Fork Shortcut Trail dedication May 12, 2018 had 31 people in attendance. No one from Olympia that was invited showed up. Region 4 provided a cake and led the group on the new trail. There is a nice placard at the start and end of the trail giving recognition to those who helped with the trail. Look for an article in Tri-Power on it.

We received a letter from Blue Ribbon thanking us for our donation to their legal fund.

Skip Frans will attend the WA State Trails Conference in Wenatchee, he asked if he had to pay for his own registration or if it would be paid for by the PNW answer it will be paid for from Arlene's budget, he needs to get a hold of her to see how she wants to handle it.

Dale Neuman asked the Region if they would help pay his fuel taking the Jeep Eugene where it needed to go in order to be fixed. Discussion followed and a motion was made by Lynn Kirk seconded by Char Massey (Columbia Basin Sand Commandos) that the region pay all of his fuel expenses for this; motion carried.

Dale Neuman brought up that a lot of us have used our own tools on work parties so he was wondering if the region might purchase some tools like chainsaws, hedge clippers etc. Discussion followed and a lot of questions were brought up, who would keep them, maintain them, sign them out and be responsible for making sure they came back in good shape. So for now this was tabled and the delegates are to take it back to their clubs to see what their thinking on it is. Roger Townsend (Trail Seekers) said he was a firearms instructor with the state and they provided guns for the instructors to get and use during their classes and it was a nightmare, it was a fiasco, the concept is good but you are dealing with some people who don't know how to treat things. John Thompson (Midnite Mudders) said maybe we could get tools donated, but someone would still have to be in charge.

Trail Seekers Skip Frans said not a whole lot going on as a club, they did have a pretty good work party, people still doing maintenance, Skip went on Saturday and Sunday to the Liberty work party. He went to Moab and had a good time. Skip said he is getting ready for Trail Jamboree and Northwest Overlanders Ham Radio presentation. Last Saturday he had one member of Cascade 4 X4's pass their Ham Radio Exam.

Wenatchee Mountain Masters Lynn Kirk said not much was going on, they are working on rigs, a couple are going on a Father's Day run to Liberty and they are working on their 50th Anniversary Party.

Midnite Mudders John Thompson said they are not doing much now. Some are going to Trail Jamboree.

Columbia Basin Sand Commandos Ed Massey said they went to the Liberty work party and one is hosting at Trail Jamboree.

High Country Cruisers Dale Neuman reported they attended the Liberty Work Party, attending meetings with the Forest Service and working on Eugene.

Desert Rats Sande Nettnin reported some were at the Liberty Work Party, some will launch Sprint Boats this weekend at St. John, and some are trail hosts at Trail Jamboree.

Ed and Char Massey's granddaughter graduated from High School with also a 2 year college degree; their grandson is getting married in Wenatchee this summer.

Earl and Sande Nettnin have two grandsons turning 29 this month. One grandson graduating from Jr. College this weekend.

Skip and Melody Frans have one granddaughter graduating from High School, two granddaughters graduating from college both continuing on for their Masters; one is from UW the other WSU. Their grandson who used to go to Trail Jamboree with Skip recently graduated as a rescue diver in the Navy, his next phase will be Helicopter training.


Next two Region 4 meeting dates will be:
July 10, 2018 Doug Conner's Shop Pasco, WA 7:30 PM
August 14, 2018 at Time Out Pizza Ephrata, WA 7:30 PM

Trail Jamboree July 4-8, 2018
Ahtanum cleanup July 28 & 29, 2018 contact person Clay Graham
Summer Convention August 17-19, 2018 at Ethel
Fall Delegates September 10, 2018 in Astoria, OR
PUAM September 14-16, 2018 at Jim Sprick Park

Save the date October 25-27, 2018 Washington State Trails Conference in Wenatchee, WA

Hearing now more business the meeting adjourned at 8:50 PM

Respectfully Submitted,

Sande Nettnin, Region 4

Sande Nettnin
PNW4WDA Secretary
Region 4 Secretary/Treasurer
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:28 PM
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This comment is a mite aggravating...

"Travel Management Plan is still a work in progress, nothing seems to be happening and probably won't be as far as we are told; there doesn't seem to be any urgency to get it done."
Dave Walters
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