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Old 07-01-2009, 01:40 PM
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Default Snow Cabin and Ahtanum Meadows are getting reduced services

I got a DNR e-mail yesterday showing Snow Cabin and Ahtanum Meadows are getting reduced services and was told they maybe even closed.



Originally Posted by DNR
Hi folks,

I appreciate the input I received from many of you regarding reduced services at some of DNR’s recreation sites. I understand, appreciate, and share your frustration.

Unfortunately, this week we began reducing services at many of our facilities. You will find the list of these sites, their legislative district, cost savings information, and a timeline on DNR’s Web site at: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/Publications/a...ces_063009.pdf

You can also download a map showing the affected sites at:

http://www.dnr.wa.gov/Publications/a...ices063009.pdf (1.9 MB PDF file)

http://www.dnr.wa.gov/Publications/a...ices063009.jpg (1.9 MB JPG file)

The hard truth is that we can no longer support all our facilities and trails with our current budget. Our new fiscal year begins July 1, and we need to take immediate action and cut back on services in some areas or run the risk of compounding the budget shortfall later this year.

Reduced services will include removing outhouses or nailing doors shut and removing picnic tables, garbage cans, and signs. Some sites that were open year round will now only be open seasonally. In other areas, we are able to keep from reducing services thanks to donations of volunteer time and money from user groups.

Many of you have offered ideas on how to keep these facilities operating. These suggestions reflect how deeply you are committed to working with us to ensure that recreational opportunities are available in this state. We want to continue the dialog with you and look into ways to continue to provide facilities at our recreation areas.

Public lands still open to the public

You may have noticed by now that I am no longer using the term “closure,” except in terms of seasonal closures. Even though we are reducing services or no longer providing services of any kind at some sites, these public lands are still open to the public for recreation. We ask that you pack-out whatever you pack-in and observe other principles of outdoor stewardship such as Leave No Trace. (http://www.lnt.org/programs/principles.php)

Also, be aware that gated areas may be locked, and the only way into a site will be on foot.

More cuts expected

This list of reduced services is just an initial step. Many of us here at DNR believe that we will need to make further reductions later this summer or in the fall. As always, we will be tracking our budget closely.

In my next e-mail message, I will outline what it takes to manage and maintain a recreation site, facility, and trail. My hope is that by providing you with this information, we can continue the discussion on how all of us, collectively, can come up with the necessary resources to prevent further reductions in services.

Thanks for your concern and understanding.

You can help

If you witness any abuse to resources, vandalism, or illegal dumping on DNR-managed lands, please report these incidents. Be sure to note any license plate numbers and get a description of any vehicles involved. If the matter doesn’t require an immediate law enforcement response or for after hours and on weekends call 800-562-6010. Otherwise, call 911. You can also call the regional offices directly for non-emergencies. A list of phone numbers is at: http://www.dnr.wa.gov/AboutDNR/Regio...s/Default.aspx

Mark Mauren

Assistant Division Manager

Asset Management and Recreation Division

Washington State Department of Natural Resources


Today in the Yakima Herald:
Budget cuts reduce services at some state lands in Yakima County

YAKIMA, Wash. -- The state will reduce services at Ahtanum Meadows and Snow Cabin campgrounds in Yakima County in November due to budget cuts, according to the Department of Natural Resources.

The public can still use these and other state trust lands, but services will be reduced. There will not be amenities such as outhouses, picnic tables, signs or garbage cans. Visitors must pack out everything they bring in.

Other campgrounds around the state are affected immediately.

“As a result of budget cuts, DNR has had to make some difficult and painful decisions,” Commissioner of Public Lands Peter Goldmark said in a news release.

Goldmark said the measures are needed to address the decreased funding of DNR’s recreation program in the two-year budget cycle that starts today.

-- Leah Beth Ward
Clay Graham

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Old 07-01-2009, 04:06 PM
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There's no reason to close anything anytime. The dirt and trees were there long before DNR and will be there long after DNR. It will be fine all by itself. If they need to cut funding then cut the guys job who locks gates before he does. As a matter of fact to make some money cut down the gate and sell it for scrap metal!

Some of the best land I have visited in the USA was land unregulated. No signs, no outhouses, no garbage service, no ranger patrols. It was just land. No need to waste all this money on officials to regulate the land to death! Like now! They are out of money and say they will have to lock the gate. BS. Eliminate the position before the gate gets locked, the land will be fine without them. They are afraid to let that happen though, they will never get their jobs back when they realize the only thing they are needed for is to lock and unlock a gate. BS. Sell the gate.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:55 PM
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Info from Mike Williams (DNR SE Recreation Program Manager)

Snow Cabin and Ahtanum Meadows are still open until November 15th, 2009. The picnic tables, fire rings and sign boards will be removed after that date. A gate will be installed at Snow Cabin and Ahtanum Meadows.

Most of the other closures statewide are July 1 but this didn’t make sense to me since we have the maintenance crew until the end of December and the only expense is toilet pumping.
Clay Graham

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